miserable failure, part II

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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A majority of Americans do not believe it was worth going to war in Iraq, a national poll reported Tuesday.

Fifty-seven percent of those polled said they did not believe it was worth going to war, versus 41 percent who said it was, according to a CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll of 1,006 adults.
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  • Re: miserable failure, part II

    Wed, May 4, 2005 - 12:49 AM
    wow maybe they're not so stupid after all.
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      Re: miserable failure, part II

      Wed, May 4, 2005 - 1:38 PM
      This is not a case of better late than never. And it took a decade for the people to turn against the Vietnam war before we get out. A decade of more deaths. In this case the more deaths may be on US soil as we are helping new enemies that have the power to reach the US with better weapons. But maybe this is the real agenda of the administration because it would help bolster support for the PNAC 50 year war.
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        Re: miserable failure, part II

        Mon, May 30, 2005 - 10:43 AM
        Bordering Pakistan and Afghanistan to the East is China, oil hungry, short on hard currency, and industrializing fast. To the West of Pakistan and Afghanistan is Iran, then Iraq. I personally believe we sold F-16's to Pakistan and invaded afghanistan was to put a long term "tripwire" line in against the Chinese. By the same token, taking over Iraq and making it basicaly a one country large US military base is part of the same thinking. Its also why Iran wants to go nuke, well, that, and toasting Isreal.

        Its a hotbed of religion, oil, east meeting middle east, and ethnic and national hatred. Can be a bad place to be, but also a bad place not to be.
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          Re: miserable failure, part II

          Mon, May 30, 2005 - 4:49 PM
          <to the East is China, oil hungry, short on hard currency, and industrializing fast>

          Not short on hard currency. They have been running a trade surplus for so long that they are awash in dollars and Euros. They surpassed Japan in GNP and are running at 50% of the US GNP. They are now going out and doing deals in Venezuela to fund and build oil pipelines and oil exploration to get access to oil. The US gets over 14% of its oil from Venezuela. If that were to start shipping to China the US would have an instant oil shock.
  • Re: miserable failure, part II

    Thu, August 11, 2005 - 8:56 PM
    I think that for a lot of Americans with a 9/11 hysteria hangover, who were unable to accurately forecast the cost of a war such as this, the increasing price tag of the wins them over.
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      Re: miserable failure, part II

      Mon, December 26, 2005 - 11:28 PM
      We have learned alot more about the unstable complex nature of the middle east since then too, and are less happy about just marching in.
      • Re: miserable failure, part II

        Tue, December 27, 2005 - 9:02 AM
        The only real hope of the Iraqi's is if they realize that once the US is gone, it is up to them to keep from each others throats.

        Hell, any abuses that the US has made, will pale in comparison to what the Iraqi's will do to each other...
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          Re: miserable failure, part II

          Fri, January 6, 2006 - 1:52 AM
          Yeah, if the Iraqi's come to beleive that the US is giong to leave and they are in it together...that would ice it. Lets hope.

          On the other hand, they may, like the Kurds, feel there is no such thing as iraq really, and the Kurds succeed to possiblly incite with Turkish Kurds for their independence, or the Shia want to bridge the Persian/Arab barrier and align with Iran, or the Sunnis are just in it alone period.

          It would be tough to hold an Iraq together then.

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